tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35977892.post7285573805233201437..comments2023-07-08T12:17:05.573-04:00Comments on DKBJ's MCLA Blog: One Critic on the Importance of Defining ArtDavid K. Braden-Johnsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17913431807951417405noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35977892.post-67458792429077649232021-01-10T09:44:39.014-05:002021-01-10T09:44:39.014-05:00This is my first time i visit here. I found so man...This is my first time i visit here. I found so many interesting stuff in your blog especially its discussion. From the tons of comments on your articles, I guess I am not the only one having all the enjoyment here keep up the good work <a href="http://forums.powwows.com/members/749160.html" rel="nofollow">my profile</a><br />Edward Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12464964311357612332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35977892.post-70952596382488610082012-03-09T17:15:28.001-05:002012-03-09T17:15:28.001-05:00Thank you for pointing that out; I am very vague w...Thank you for pointing that out; I am very vague when it comes to giving evidence. Art is, first and foremost above us, because it is the ONLY thing we have created which we do not understand and, depending upon who you talk to, someone may say we did not even create it, that it was innate in us. In a Criminal Minds episode, it was quoted that the internet is "the first thing we have created which we do not understand completely" but that is untrue because we DO understand it, we just underestimate its potential harm. Art is above us also because when human beings are creative and making art, they are using so many senses and are so stimulated that it's above any feelings on earth, as I've seen from research. Someone would present a counter-argument to that saying that sex or jumping from an airplane gives a greater stimulation, but those can only last for so long and one cannot acknowledge these feelings while they are going on as well. So, the creation of art lasts longer and the beautiful stimulation is much more recognizable. Many religions also view art and music as something sacred and divine, primarily the Sufi religion--I do not, however, agree the Sufis interpret art in the best way--and art and music for them is above human beings, in another world, not too distant from Plato's idea of the Realm of Forms where the supreme knowledge lies. So, suggesting that Plato is wrong in his critique on art, the Realm of Forms houses art, music, and literature.<br /><br />I hope that makes my point clearer and also, I'm sorry I didn't get back sooner, I must have accidentally deleted the notification email as spam mail.Chris Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08583350452314341681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35977892.post-33788357531282277142012-03-09T17:15:09.104-05:002012-03-09T17:15:09.104-05:00Thank you for pointing that out; I am very vague w...Thank you for pointing that out; I am very vague when it comes to giving evidence. Art is, first and foremost above us, because it is the ONLY thing we have created which we do not understand and, depending upon who you talk to, someone may say we did not even create it, that it was innate in us. In a Criminal Minds episode, it was quoted that the internet is "the first thing we have created which we do not understand completely" but that is untrue because we DO understand it, we just underestimate its potential harm. Art is above us also because when human beings are creative and making art, they are using so many senses and are so stimulated that it's above any feelings on earth, as I've seen from research. Someone would present a counter-argument to that saying that sex or jumping from an airplane gives a greater stimulation, but those can only last for so long and one cannot acknowledge these feelings while they are going on as well. So, the creation of art lasts longer and the beautiful stimulation is much more recognizable. Many religions also view art and music as something sacred and divine, primarily the Sufi religion--I do not, however, agree the Sufis interpret art in the best way--and art and music for them is above human beings, in another world, not too distant from Plato's idea of the Realm of Forms where the supreme knowledge lies. So, suggesting that Plato is wrong in his critique on art, the Realm of Forms houses art, music, and literature.<br /><br />I hope that makes my point clearer and also, I'm sorry I didn't get back sooner, I must have accidentally deleted the notification email as spam mail.Chris Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08583350452314341681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35977892.post-8055219073880326752012-03-05T09:52:36.989-05:002012-03-05T09:52:36.989-05:00I would have to ask the same question as Tom; you ...I would have to ask the same question as Tom; you cannot say that you have a counter argument without trying to actually explain it. It would be useful to explain any vaguely spiritual outlook on art. It's not that I think your view is wrong, I simply think it needs explaining before it can be accepted or refuted.<br /><br />I think I understand why it is that you are thinking this. I think that Lansing's example of the aeronautical engineer is not quite comparable to art. It's similar in some way but not completely. Art is, currently, defined openly; we have a general idea of what art is, and based off of that we can teach about lines, colors, shapes, perspective, and so on. Art is certainly more of a spacey subject than Aeronautical engineering; artwork are certainly less well defined than airplane.Brandon Gaudethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11857573343142433606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35977892.post-6598613264290729192012-03-04T13:14:18.307-05:002012-03-04T13:14:18.307-05:00Would you care to elaborate as to how art is above...Would you care to elaborate as to how art is above us?Tom Chianghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840953180723719805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35977892.post-72036190571244644132012-03-02T00:51:28.222-05:002012-03-02T00:51:28.222-05:00I found this very interesting. I do not know much ...I found this very interesting. I do not know much about Kenneth Lansing nor could I find much about him, but I think he could be biased in his view if he has not had work in an artistic field of some sort. But I think that art is above human beings in a sort of way, the way that science (which he uses as an example) does not. Any argument for art being defined I think can be counter-argued with the point that art is above us, but I feel this opinion would be respective only of the artistic community.Chris Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08583350452314341681noreply@blogger.com